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Post by CJ on Nov 1, 2011 16:12:21 GMT -5
So, not to state the obvious but... is this fed alive anymore? I was posting my roleplay just now and realized, it's dead as hell around here. HEEELLLLOOO???
(Listens for the echo)
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Post by dragon on Nov 1, 2011 18:56:04 GMT -5
So, not to state the obvious but... is this fed alive anymore? I was posting my roleplay just now and realized, it's dead as hell around here. HEEELLLLOOO??? (Listens for the echo)
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Post by Christian Kane on Nov 2, 2011 12:56:32 GMT -5
So, not to state the obvious but... is this fed alive anymore? I was posting my roleplay just now and realized, it's dead as hell around here. HEEELLLLOOO??? (Listens for the echo)
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Post by Sabora on Nov 2, 2011 18:15:36 GMT -5
The EUW is far from dead. Right now, winter is coming upon us and that is usually a downtime for the fed. I implore all members to try and recruit folks if possible to fill up our ranks to fight this time. It does help when we all work as a team. CJ, you are not alone.
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Post by The Sky King on Nov 3, 2011 16:46:55 GMT -5
Yeah, if anyone could recruit..That would be a major bloody help. I don't care if its friends or friends of friends or friends of friends of friends....Every new member helps.
Also, I just noticed that Sabora's career record is 72-4. Fucking hell, is that true??? 72 wins and 4 losses? Holy crap!
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Post by kris on Nov 3, 2011 17:32:47 GMT -5
I've reached out to the few friends I have that aren't at capacity, but the way that some things went down under the previous fedhead turned a lot of them off. I'm not pointing fingers, or trying to start anything... I'm simply repeating what I've been told.
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Post by Diabolik on Nov 3, 2011 20:12:35 GMT -5
So yeah, i'm pretty busy most of the time.
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Post by Sabora on Nov 4, 2011 1:54:38 GMT -5
Yeah, if anyone could recruit..That would be a major bloody help. I don't care if its friends or friends of friends or friends of friends of friends....Every new member helps. Also, I just noticed that Sabora's career record is 72-4. Fucking hell, is that true??? 72 wins and 4 losses? Holy crap! That's right, sir! I have been blessed to this point. I've reached out to the few friends I have that aren't at capacity, but the way that some things went down under the previous fedhead turned a lot of them off. I'm not pointing fingers, or trying to start anything... I'm simply repeating what I've been told. I am sorry, Kris. I have never been one to lighten up the meaning of my words. That post was bullshit. The last fed head (One who has a name.. Jaden, I believe.) bent over backwards to try to make things right for you and myself included. A little tact is in order. AGAIN, if there is an issue then pm it. Don't leave argument inducing stuff on the boards please.
To comment on it though, since that is really the heart of what you hoped to achieve based on that reply, I don't really see how Jaden did anything wrong to you or your "friends". I would be more than happy to hear from these "friends" in a pm with their issues with him. Chances are, it's just some angry writers who really did not get their way during their tenure with us. This type of response is getting old and to use your words... alot of "friends" (and myself) are growing tired of posts like this poisoning a once positive atmosphere. This isn't helping Phil at all and I am pretty much positive CJ didn't intend for a finger pointing war to begin in his thread.I highlighted your finger pointing to show why I was bothered by your post. I just want this fed to return to what it was, a close family, with people who care about each other. During that time, we didn't argue if someone didn't write our character correctly and shows were not looked at as an event to pick apart. This was before your time with us, Kris. So, I realize that this sort of goes no where in this situation. You're a fine writer though in your own right. I just wish more energy was used in helping things grow and less on being silent until someone can be sniped.
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Post by dragon on Nov 4, 2011 2:00:21 GMT -5
Yeah, if anyone could recruit..That would be a major bloody help. I don't care if its friends or friends of friends or friends of friends of friends....Every new member helps. Also, I just noticed that Sabora's career record is 72-4. Fucking hell, is that true??? 72 wins and 4 losses? Holy crap! That's right, sir! I have been blessed to this point. I've reached out to the few friends I have that aren't at capacity, but the way that some things went down under the previous fedhead turned a lot of them off. I'm not pointing fingers, or trying to start anything... I'm simply repeating what I've been told. I am sorry, Kris. I have never been one to lighten up the meaning of my words. That post was bullshit. The last fed head (One who has a name.. Jaden, I believe.) bent over backwards to try to make things right for you and myself included. A little tact is in order. AGAIN, if there is an issue then pm it. Don't leave argument inducing stuff on the boards please.
To comment on it though, since that is really the heart of what you hoped to achieve based on that reply, I don't really see how Jaden did anything wrong to you or your "friends". I would be more than happy to hear from these "friends" in a pm with their issues with him. Chances are, it's just some angry writers who really did not get their way during their tenure with us. This type of response is getting old and to use your words... alot of "friends" (and myself) are growing tired of posts like this poisoning a once positive atmosphere. This isn't helping Phil at all and I am pretty much positive CJ didn't intend for a finger pointing war to begin in his thread.I highlighted your finger pointing to show why I was bothered by your post. I just want this fed to return to what it was, a close family, with people who care about each other. During that time, we didn't argue if someone didn't write our character correctly and shows were not looked at as an event to pick apart. This was before your time with us, Kris. So, I realize that this sort of goes no where in this situation. You're a fine writer though in your own right. I just wish more energy was used in helping things grow and less on being silent until someone can be sniped.It doesn't matter anymore. This also isn't helping to bring new prospective members in. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions about how I ran this place. Bottom line, I am positive that I did more good than bad during my tenure and I am fine with that. I did my best and never received a check. Why should I defend myself? Whatever I have done to anyone, it is what it is. I have long since moved on. To return the thread as it were, I have been doing nothing really. Just a lot of TV and Batman on PS3. Good times.
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Post by Sabora on Nov 4, 2011 2:06:20 GMT -5
That's right, sir! I have been blessed to this point. I am sorry, Kris. I have never been one to lighten up the meaning of my words. That post was bullshit. The last fed head (One who has a name.. Jaden, I believe.) bent over backwards to try to make things right for you and myself included. A little tact is in order. AGAIN, if there is an issue then pm it. Don't leave argument inducing stuff on the boards please.
To comment on it though, since that is really the heart of what you hoped to achieve based on that reply, I don't really see how Jaden did anything wrong to you or your "friends". I would be more than happy to hear from these "friends" in a pm with their issues with him. Chances are, it's just some angry writers who really did not get their way during their tenure with us. This type of response is getting old and to use your words... alot of "friends" (and myself) are growing tired of posts like this poisoning a once positive atmosphere. This isn't helping Phil at all and I am pretty much positive CJ didn't intend for a finger pointing war to begin in his thread.I highlighted your finger pointing to show why I was bothered by your post. I just want this fed to return to what it was, a close family, with people who care about each other. During that time, we didn't argue if someone didn't write our character correctly and shows were not looked at as an event to pick apart. This was before your time with us, Kris. So, I realize that this sort of goes no where in this situation. You're a fine writer though in your own right. I just wish more energy was used in helping things grow and less on being silent until someone can be sniped. It doesn't matter anymore. This also isn't helping to bring new prospective members in. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions about how I ran this place. Bottom line, I am positive that I did more good than bad during my tenure and I am fine with that. I did my best and never received a check. Why should I defend myself? Whatever I have done to anyone, it is what it is. I have long since moved on. To return the thread as it were, I have been doing nothing really. Just a lot of TV and Batman on PS3. Good times. Perhaps I went overboard in my response. I just am far beyond the needless jabs on the boards at this point. It needs to end. As a staff though, I should be more calm I suppose. I am still learning. So, it ends with me as of now.
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Post by kidnotorious on Nov 4, 2011 3:35:26 GMT -5
Yeah, if anyone could recruit..That would be a major bloody help. I don't care if its friends or friends of friends or friends of friends of friends....Every new member helps. Also, I just noticed that Sabora's career record is 72-4. Fucking hell, is that true??? 72 wins and 4 losses? Holy crap! That's right, sir! I have been blessed to this point. I've reached out to the few friends I have that aren't at capacity, but the way that some things went down under the previous fedhead turned a lot of them off. I'm not pointing fingers, or trying to start anything... I'm simply repeating what I've been told. I am sorry, Kris. I have never been one to lighten up the meaning of my words. That post was bullshit. The last fed head (One who has a name.. Jaden, I believe.) bent over backwards to try to make things right for you and myself included. A little tact is in order. AGAIN, if there is an issue then pm it. Don't leave argument inducing stuff on the boards please.
Last I checked, this was a discussion on a discussion forum which means everything, even negative input is necessary. How is one to grow if all they get is their ass kissed or told everything is wonderful when it really isn't? Yeah, no. Nice try though. Speaking as someone who is very close to her and also a part of the circle of friends she was talking about this place to, her friends are very real and none of them (well one of them not-counting Jake/Isamu might be) have ever been here before. However things that happened during my and Kris's time here put them off. There was nothing specific pointed out in Kris's post, no fingers were pointed (I think she intentionally put "the previous fedhead" in an attempt to not point fingers ) so your attitude in response to her is really not cool. Speaking of unnecessary shots at people, this really comes off like you bitching at her (and I guess me since we both had the same issues last show) because she dared to ask that her/our characters be written in a way that makes sense, weren't you the one just talking about keeping things private? Nice. Again, constructive criticism is NECESSARY if you are going to grow as a writer or a fed. It can't all be sunshines and rainbows. Also for as long as I've been here it's been the REGULARS of EUW, people who were here long before Kris or I came along, causing problems so I don't even know where you're going with this. I like EUW, I'm enjoying my time here, if I knew people that weren't already a part of the friends (no "" because they are real people no matter what Sabora wants to believe) who she mentioned I might try to send them here but she's right, there's a stigma to the place from the previous fedhead's run that needs to be washed away first. That's not to say the previous fedhead was bad, far from it. He did a lot of good things, he had to have with how long this place has lasted, but in my brief time there were some bad things that happened as well. What the place needs is an active OOC environment, which is what CJ was alluding to in the first post I think, you know how you do that, Sabora (and the rest of the staff)? By, yknow, posting things. I'm a lurker by heart, especially at new places, so when nobody else is posting I don't feel the need to do so myself. If the staff wants to see more activity perhaps the staff should take a more active role in making that happen.
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Post by Sabora on Nov 4, 2011 4:07:26 GMT -5
That's right, sir! I have been blessed to this point. I am sorry, Kris. I have never been one to lighten up the meaning of my words. That post was bullshit. The last fed head (One who has a name.. Jaden, I believe.) bent over backwards to try to make things right for you and myself included. A little tact is in order. AGAIN, if there is an issue then pm it. Don't leave argument inducing stuff on the boards please.
Last I checked, this was a discussion on a discussion forum which means everything, even negative input is necessary. How is one to grow if all they get is their ass kissed or told everything is wonderful when it really isn't? Yeah, no. Nice try though. Speaking as someone who is very close to her and also a part of the circle of friends she was talking about this place to, her friends are very real and none of them (well one of them not-counting Jake/Isamu might be) have ever been here before. However things that happened during my and Kris's time here put them off. There was nothing specific pointed out in Kris's post, no fingers were pointed (I think she intentionally put "the previous fedhead" in an attempt to not point fingers ) so your attitude in response to her is really not cool. Speaking of unnecessary shots at people, this really comes off like you bitching at her (and I guess me since we both had the same issues last show) because she dared to ask that her/our characters be written in a way that makes sense, weren't you the one just talking about keeping things private? Nice. Again, constructive criticism is NECESSARY if you are going to grow as a writer or a fed. It can't all be sunshines and rainbows. Also for as long as I've been here it's been the REGULARS of EUW, people who were here long before Kris or I came along, causing problems so I don't even know where you're going with this. I like EUW, I'm enjoying my time here, if I knew people that weren't already a part of the friends (no "" because they are real people no matter what Sabora wants to believe) who she mentioned I might try to send them here but she's right, there's a stigma to the place from the previous fedhead's run that needs to be washed away first. That's not to say the previous fedhead was bad, far from it. He did a lot of good things, he had to have with how long this place has lasted, but in my brief time there were some bad things that happened as well. What the place needs is an active OOC environment, which is what CJ was alluding to in the first post I think, you know how you do that, Sabora (and the rest of the staff)? By, yknow, posting things. I'm a lurker by heart, especially at new places, so when nobody else is posting I don't feel the need to do so myself. If the staff wants to see more activity perhaps the staff should take a more active role in making that happen. I said my peace already, and I accept your thoughts. I stand by my comments though. As for the older members being a problem, I don't recall this at all. Maybe you could jog my memory there. Also, feel free to describe the "stigma" that you refer to from our last fed head. I am interested in what you refer to. As far as I know, our roster tripled during Jaden's run and we even hit the efed Knight's top fed voting at one point. (Jaden was even mentioned for the fed head award.) Sounds pretty successful to me.
I agree with your OOC thoughts though whole heartedly. It does need help and that starts with the staff. As for your "friends", my only response is this. If they were not former competitors here, and they somehow managed to come up with a negative opinion towards the fed or fed head based on your relatively short stay here, then I don't know what to say. A reasonable and well informed judgement of this fed should be based on a first person usage of activity here, not on what we happen to hear or see in a 2 month time span. That's just being silly and ignorant.
UPDATE: One last thought. You are also right about keeping things private. I was wrong. It was frustration peering though. When I mentioned my frustrations with writers getting upset about how their characters are written, you were not on my mind. I actually haven't heard one negative thing about you. I wont involve or speak for the other staff though. As far as myself, I wont bother writing a match or promo for a writer who is anal about how their character is written though. I understand how the writer would want to save the integrity of his character for sure, but this is also just a game. No one is being paid here. This is all supposed to be light hearted. I don't have time to read someone's gripes about how I didn't satisfy them when writing a match. I lent my time for free to try to help this fed. I can take criticism, but not aggressive complaining.
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Post by Obi on Nov 4, 2011 4:19:50 GMT -5
Sounds like you could both agree to disagree there. Personally, I saw no stigma myself with how Jaden ran things. Shit happens. The bottom line is, Brandon is right. The OOC is dead and that fuels a fed. If this thread sparked conversation then I say mission accomplished either way. I can see what Kris and Brandon mean as I do Chris. I say this debate is a tie. If i have been a problem as a "regular" member at all, than I offer my apologies. I try to be a positive influence when I can here.
As for where I have been. I been just spending more time with my family. Things are 85% better in my world now. I also returned to the gym and have been at it heavily. On a side note: Chuck, you wrote another damn good RP, brother.
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Post by kris on Nov 4, 2011 5:28:22 GMT -5
For the sake of clarification; the issues that I was referring to were how the Scars and Stripes fall-out was handled, and also the issues that involved the way some characters were not written correctly. Tim is very much right in that sweeping any issues under the rug and handling them privately, when it comes to such matters, is not the way to go about things. If someone sees staff so aggressively trying to make people take things to PMs/deleting feedback threads, it makes them wonder what's being hidden. It's better for things to be resolved openly, and through mature discussion, than for them to be hidden away like everyone is perfect and no one makes mistakes.
That's all I was saying, and to assign meaning beyond my words is... well, it's bullshit, since I say what I mean, and always have. You're somewhat new to me, Chris, so I suppose you wouldn't have known that.
Now, with that being said-- I've been running around like a chicken with my head cut off, most of the time. I've had a lot on my plate in regards to my grandmother getting out of having aneurym surgery done (she had one coiled) and also trying to keep my duo of wondercats from destroying things in my absence.
Oh yeah-- and it's awesome things are going better with your family life over there, Toby. That's good to hear.
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Post by The Sky King on Nov 4, 2011 7:12:19 GMT -5
Also for as long as I've been here it's been the REGULARS of EUW, people who were here long before Kris or I came along, causing problems so I don't even know where you're going with this. This caught my attention. Why don't you explain what you mean?
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Post by The Cobra Viper on Nov 4, 2011 7:57:15 GMT -5
Avoiding the debat i'd like to first congratulate toby on the improvement. and second apologize for what may be a no show. It's still early in the day but the last three weeks have consisted of 13 papers being assigned.
I should have posted earlier or not accepted the double booking but i honestly didn't think i'd get slammed with back to back paper assignments in my classes.
I'm hoping to write later today after i get my university stuff done.
Sorry in advance and thank god we have a conversation going.
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Post by Skye on Nov 4, 2011 9:18:08 GMT -5
Fantastic to hear that things are getting better at home, Obi!!! ;D *cheers and hurrahs* Life has been straight out for me. My coworker (who does the same job I do) has been on medical leave the past 3 weeks and was working on about 35% before he admitted his medical issues were serious enough (men...), so I've had the bulk of the work for a good month or so. I'm plain old mentally exhausted. (and hoping the coworker gets better and comes back to work soon) CJ, I second Obi in the opinion - that was a damn fine RP, hun. Nice to see you back in stride.
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Post by kris on Nov 4, 2011 10:11:48 GMT -5
It's still early in the day but the last three weeks have consisted of 13 papers being assigned. ...and that is why I do not miss college. At all.
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Post by Christian Kane on Nov 4, 2011 10:52:00 GMT -5
Stop typing so much that hurts my eyes, anyway...I've been...
- Getting bitches - Getting money - Getting more bitches - Staring at the polaroids - Getting money - Gym (gun show etc etc)
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Post by kidnotorious on Nov 4, 2011 15:31:17 GMT -5
Also for as long as I've been here it's been the REGULARS of EUW, people who were here long before Kris or I came along, causing problems so I don't even know where you're going with this. This caught my attention. Why don't you explain what you mean? What I mean is Sabora seemingly blaming all the problems that plague EUW on Kris and me asking to have our characters written in the right way when most of the problems had nothing to do with us. Does the name Jack Bull not ring a bell anymore?
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Post by dragon on Nov 4, 2011 18:42:23 GMT -5
This caught my attention. Why don't you explain what you mean? What I mean is Sabora seemingly blaming all the problems that plague EUW on Kris and me asking to have our characters written in the right way when most of the problems had nothing to do with us. Does the name Jack Bull not ring a bell anymore? Let's just learn from this and move on. Seriously. I honestly could give a shit anymore and I refuse to talk about someone who isn't here to defend themselves.
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